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The Tottenham Mysteries - The Photo File

26/11/2017

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 A different 'Mysteries' for you this time. Its not uncommon to come across photos that are either unlabelled or appear (and often are) wrong, even from 'reliable' sources. Today a few that remain unresolved and maybe you can help or at least wonder along with us.

Starting with what might be an easy one. This  presentation by Bill Nicholson to Dave Mackay. Its a picture often seen but what is he presenting?

Both THFC and The Tribute Trust have used the image over the last two years but neither could supply an answer. Looking at Dave's shirt I would suggest its late sixties?

Next - This might get a few heads scratching. This comes without any caption. There are people standing on the Shelf outside the wooden barrier. However there are no glimpses of White paint  showing through and the barrier was painted green in 1934/35. Continues below.
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The second clue is that Spurs are playing in hoops, which would suggest a cup tie. In that season (if it is) we did play Manchester City, Newcastle and Bolton at WHL in the FA Cup. ideas?
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This comes as 'Cambridge United 1950's' The first team did not play them during that decade.

Our reserve and A team sides would have played them at various times in competitions such as the South East Counties League.
Other than that.....

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Staying in the 50's (I suspect).
This is Spurs at Scunthorpe.

We can be 'fairly sure' its not the 1951 Festival of Britain game we featured a few months ago,(1).


And I would not suspect looking at the kit and crowd (what we can see of them) that its the FAC tie the following season - 1952. Therefore I am led to believe its a non-first team match but other than that.....
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The next one is this chap - one 'Arthur Shining' he appears in the set of pictures called prominent footballers. However I can find no record of him playing for the first team. Nor does his name appear in various newspaper archives.
These cigarette cards were issued (in hundreds) by Taddy & Co
from 1907 onwards.
The badge however (along with the hairstle) would I suspect mean he made his appearance in the 1920's ?
Anyone with the handbooks for that period ?

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Lastly - This was sent to me and looks weird! My first thought was it was a brilliant table soccer game, given the size of the ball.
The people however at the Park Lane End seem real (?). So did we have a promotion / advertising event which used massive size balls?
This is recent enough for someone to remember it.

So there you have it, if your shaking your head and saying fancy not knowing that one or you are a relative of Arthur Shining please feel free to enlighten my darkness.

Any educated guesses welcomed. The Mysteries will be back and I promise its one I think I've made a fair bit of headway with.
Notes -1 - http://www.indiaspurs.com/blog/hotspur-towers-the-festival-of-britain

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My profile / archive is @ -  http://www.indiaspurs.com/keith_harrison.html

Previous Mysteries can be found @
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5 Comments
Tony Sealey
29/11/2017 12:03:14 am

An AE Sinning played 9 games in the London Combination in 1921-22 and 4 further games in the same competition, the following season

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Tony Sealey
29/11/2017 12:06:36 am

The first picture, is indeed one of the two FA Cup matches between Spurs and Bolton at WHL, in 1935.

Spurs are playing in blue and white hoops and Bolton in red shirts and white shorts

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Tony Sealey
29/11/2017 12:13:34 am

The picture of Dave Mackay is from 1965

And, from memory, this is I believe the presentation of his retrospective ECWC winners medal as he had missed the final in 1963, through injury.

I could not find anything on line to back up my memory, other than a record of him selling his medals some years back which included this medal, confirming it was awarded retrospectively.

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Tony Sealey
3/12/2017 04:29:58 am

From further research I have now found a photo of Dave Mackays retrospective ECWC winners medal and this isnt it

So I along with Keith am back to square 1 on this

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Tony Sealey
30/11/2017 12:48:07 am

Tottenhams A team regularly played Cambridge United in the Eastern Counties League between 1951 and 1958

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