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Connections - England.....2

29/3/2015

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The international break seems the right time to explore some more connections between Tottenham and the England team. The same disclaimer which covered ‘England…1’ still applies, which is worth catching up with if you haven’t all ready read same.

This time we reveal which six English internationals were born in India and which of our internationals also umpired a cricket test match against India,

As well as that we find out the penalty takers, some of the youngest, oldest, shortest  and tallest.
The games at the Lane, the England bad boy and one player who nearly played for his country.
This was written before this weeks internationals.

Alan Mullery (4) was the first player to be sent off playing for England. It came during the European Championship finals V Yugoslavia in 1968. Having been on the receiving end the whole game he lashed out and was sent off. Rumour has it that manager Alf Ramsey paid the fine that the FA imposed. That did not carry much weight with his wife. When Alan returned home she told him he was a disgrace to the family. Alan later captained the side once in a European qualifier against Malta. His only England goal came in the 1970 World Cup (1).

Sir Alf Ramsey (he was knighted in 1967) was the first Tottenham player to play in a World Cup qualifier and later the first to play in the Finals tournament. He won 32 caps, all but one as a Spur, was captain three times and scored three goals, two of them coming in his last two games. He later managed the national side for nine years. As you can see from the top image he also won the World Cup in 1966 (5).
To date England have been awarded 109 penalties. Eight of them have been  taken by Spurs players.  Alf Ramsey was the first in November 1951 V Austria at Wembley and he scored. He scored from all three he took. We then had to wait till 1985 and Glenn Hoddle missed V USA in Los Angeles. 1990 Gary Lineker scored two in a World Cup game V Cameroon.  He later scored two more from the spot for England and one of them was also against the African side. 1997 and two players took spot kicks but not when they were with Spurs, Teddy Sheringham  scored and Peter Crouch missed.

Image right - Jimmy Greaves applies the magic sponge to Bobby Smith's head on England duty at  Wembley in 1963. The other player is Bryan Douglas of Blackburn Rovers.
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On the receiving end we had Ted Ditchburn in goal and he faced one penalty. Paul Robinson who won a total of 37 out of 41 caps while he was with Spurs. He faced two and saved one. The other one was against Russia and the scorer was Pavlyuchenko. Robinson incidentally is the youngest England goalkeeper to play at a World Cup finals.

PictureThe state of that pitch and the size of his boots.
Ray Clemence won only 5 of his 61 caps with us. He faced 8 spot kicks during his England career and saved one.

Our other England goalie, Ian Walker who won 3 of his 4 caps at Tottenham did not face a penalty playing for England. These figures do not include penalty shootouts in competitions but only those in open play.


Cyril Spiers (left) played for Tottenham 169 times between 1927 -1932.  In 1931 he played in a trial match for England but never won his international cap. 

The long and short of it is Fanny Walden was only five foot two inches tall and weighted 8 stone 9 pounds. He is the smallest man ever to play for the country. His first cap came in  1914  when he became only the second Tottenham player too represent England. His second and last cap came eight years later. Which makes him one of only eleven players to play for the country before and after the First World War.


Walden played over 300 games for Spurs and was one of the great stars of the team in the early 1920's.  He missed the 1921 Cup Final through injury.

After he stopped playing football he played cricket scoring over 7000 first class runs and taking 100 wickets.
He then become a test umpire and once stood in a England V India test match.

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Peter Crouch (above)  at six foot seven is the tallest player to feature for England. A record since equaled by Fraser Forster.  Crouch is also the second highest scorer from the bench for England with five. The player who has scored the most for England as a substitute is Jermain Defoe with seven goals.

PictureAlan Mullery

Jimmy Greaves is still the youngest player since World War 2 to score for England on their debut, while he was with Chelsea. The oldest player to score for the country on his debut in the same period is Bill Nicholson. As for this week’s game V Italy, Greaves, Defoe and Willie Hall have scored for England against them.

Frank Osbourne is the only Tottenham player to represent England having been born overseas. He and his brother Reg who also played for England were born in South Africa.

No Tottenham connection here but six England internationals were born here in India. They were Alfred Goodwyn, William Kenyon-Slaney  James Prinsep, Stuart MacRae, Elphinstone Jackson and Alf Quantrill
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PictureFanny Walden

England have played five friendly games at White Hart Lane. The first was with France in December 1933 England won 4-1. Arthur Rowe and Willie Hall both made their debuts that day.

This was Rowe’s only cap which gives him a strange connection with Bill Nicholson both managed Spurs to the League Championship and both won one cap.


December 1935 saw the famous game V Germany which was won 3-0 and was England’s 200th international game (2).

In 1937 and again it was December when Czechoslovakia were the visitors. Willie Hall played in the 5-4 win thus he becomes the only Spur to play for his country twice at White Hart Lane (3).

During that game wing-half Crayston was injured, and in those pre substitute days spent most of the game on the wing and Hall dropped back into his place.

Then in 1949 Alf Ramsey played in the Italian game which England won 2-0. The latest England game came in 2000 and Holland won 2-0. This game was a farce with 18 substitutions! Ugo Ehiogu now on the coaching staff came on, as did future Spurs players Michael Carrick and  Egar Davids as well as former Spur Nicky Barmby.

COYS

Keith Harrison.
t- Keith 16024542
f- peter shearman (old non de plume reserved for THFC matters
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Notes - 1- Rio 1970.
2 - Hotspur Towers 3.
3 - Willie Hall, featured in 'England 1'  for his five goal spree for England is featured in a forthcoming Hotspur Towers.

4 - Since this written it has been announced that Alan will join the National Hall of Fame this autumn.
5 - Flying Down to Rio 9
7 Comments
keith
29/3/2015 03:07:04 am

This was written before this weekends games. At least one paper reported Harry Kane's goal as the fastest on debut for England. Sadly the press got that wrong Bill NIcholson did it faster and with his first touch. That was at Everton. Another chap who I only remember as he lived in Cornwall and I was shown where he lived as a lad was Jack Cork who scored after 30 seconds V Ireland in Belfast in 1919. He went on to win several medals I seem to remember during WW1. So I think Harry's 'is most likely' the fastest at Wembley.

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alok
29/3/2015 03:52:46 am

I hope we will see more spurs players playing for England now. Awesome article....

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Scott
30/3/2015 05:18:57 pm

Really wish WHL hosted more games. Wembley is great but it doesnt match for atmosphere

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Scott
30/3/2015 05:19:37 pm

Really wish england would play more games at whl. Wembley is nice but it doesnt compare for atmosphere

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Sohail
30/3/2015 05:25:49 pm

Alfred Goodwyn, William Kenyon-Slaney James Prinsep, Stuart MacRae, Elphinstone Jackson and Alf Quantrill, all indian on the inside! :)

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Suraj link
31/3/2015 05:35:21 am

Another thoroughly well researched piece of work Keith!! Thank you

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keith
7/3/2017 12:34:45 pm

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